Thanks, Linda and Pedro. I will put some words in PS draft to reflect this.
-Ning
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äž»é¢: Re: [vnfpool] Virtualized vs. physical network functions
Hi Linda,
Yes, it would do it!
Best,
/PA
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De: Linda Dunbar <***@huawei.com<mailto:***@huawei.com>>
Fecha: martes, 27 de mayo de 2014 23:20
Para: PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ <***@tid.es<mailto:***@tid.es>>, "***@ietf.org<mailto:***@ietf.org>" <***@ietf.org<mailto:***@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: [vnfpool] Virtualized vs. physical network functions
Pedro,
I see your point. Do you think adding the following sentence at the end of the Section 1 can address the issues you brought up?
"It worth noting that the proposed mechanism also works for unprotected hardwarebased service functions."
Linda
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Hi Linda,
Congratulations for reading through a coding mess :-) Answers inline,
Best, /PA
Dr. Pedro A. Aranda Gutiérrez
Technology Exploration -
Network Innovation & Virtualisation
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Georg Kreisler
Post by Linda DunbarPedro,
Are you saying that the physical boxes also have chance to fail, why
VNFpool emphasizes so much on Virtualized Network Functions?
Yes, physical boxes also tend to fail (in the worst possible moment, if you believe in Murphyâs law :-) )
Post by Linda DunbarIt is very likely that the physical devices, either compute or storage
devices, have embedded restoration & protection mechanism.
OK, but at what price? If you want to keep costs at a reasonable level, you will probably go to a virtualised environment, with HW that is more cost effective and with simpler mechanisms for resilience.
Post by Linda DunbarTake your storage example, many storage arrays have their own embedded
protection mechanism. When a server write/read from a storage array, it
doesn't know if the data is from stand-by devices.
Once again, I agree. But while many do, not all have it necessarily. This is also a question of costs. Thus we canât take protection for granted in âdiscreteâ boxes.
Post by Linda DunbarWhereas, in the virtualized environment, functions instantiated on
virtual mechanism doesn't have its own protection mechanism. Therefore,
the "high availability" requires the "coordination" among all the other
instances, hopefully in the standard way.
Completely agree. And hopefully we can use the same standard mechanisms in cost effective physical (as opposed to virtualised) devices, too.
My point is that I see network functions independently of the device that implements them and whether this is a physical device or a virtualised function. IMHO, hybrid environments tend to have the advantage of lowering the entry barrier: continue using what you have deployes and press the last dime out of it while introducing next-gen solutions in a virtualised environment that is more cost-effective than your current system. This âsoftâ introduction also alleviates the pressure of having to cope with something completely new on network admins.
Best,/PA
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